How can i tell?.........

[delbert]

Been to the pet shop today (just for a look, as you do)
and the man (seemed a nice man and seemed to know what he was on about)
He told me the hamster I was looking at was a winter white.

However, ive been told that some hybrids or cambells can look almost identical to WW.

So the question is? How i tell them apart?

Thanks
Adele x

[Nappo]

We have a nice Thread,where you can see the differences,but sometimes it's really hard ;D
Scroll down and you'll see picture with red lines, Dsungare(German)=WW xD
Hamsterboard.de | Genetik & Hamsterfarben | Erkennungsmerkmale eines Hybriden (http://www.hamsterboard.de/thread.php?threadid=16159&hilight=hybrid+campbell)

Hope this helps a bit!

[delbert]

http://http://www.facebook.com/album.php?id=588408651&aid=66780#!/photo.php?fbid=41881858651&set=a.52875698651.66780.588408651&theaterTried to attach a pic of my old hammie, dunno if it'll work tho
but here goes:

[RachK]

We have a nice Thread,where you can see the differences,but sometimes it's really hard ;D
Scroll down and you'll see picture with red lines, Dsungare(German)=WW xD
Hamsterboard.de | Genetik & Hamsterfarben | Erkennungsmerkmale eines Hybriden (http://www.hamsterboard.de/thread.php?threadid=16159&hilight=hybrid+campbell)

Hope this helps a bit!

Nappo that's great info with some amazingly cute pictures.

[delbert]

how do i upload a pic?
the pics on my computer are too big it tells me :(

any help would be fab.

thanks x

[Nappo]

Hey, wofunny made a thread about this :
http://www.hamstercentral.com/community/miscellaneous-chat/8805-how-post-pictures-new-threads.html
Good luck ;D

Thank you rachk, hosannah(dwarf breeder) really did a great job on this xD

[delbert]

Brill, thanks
Okay here goes....... This should be 2 pics of my first hammy (told she was a winter whit, not sure tho) she was called Sparky, was tame from day 1 and was such a happy little hammie, miss her lots :(

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h388/Adele_Lia/sparky.jpg

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h388/Adele_Lia/sparky2.jpg

[Nappo]

Hmh, hard to say, she looks like a very cute Hybrid because the eyes are so near together, but maybe you have a picture from her of the side where you can see the nose? <3
Today most of the ww's sold in pet shops are hyrids (well, in germany it is so, dunno if it's same in the uk) xD
Sorry for your loss, the first hamster always is very special ;O;

[delbert]

:) thanks

I have another question
In the pet shop they are advertising winter whites, but they currently look white with the black stripe.
My question is:
What time of year do they change their colours?
and is it likely they would change their coloursby living in a pet shop?

Hope u can help (again)
thanks

[Nappo]

Sorry, i'm not able to answer this, but i just wanted to show you that:
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/fffs-7y.jpg (http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/fffs-7y-jpg-nb.html)
I'm now 100 % sure that she was a hybrid, because of the head-shape,the ear-shape and the eye-distance ;D

[delbert]

awww thanks for that

puts me at ease as i was told that hybrids dont make nice hamsters, i now know they were lying becaue she was lovely. Im off to try and find my next hammie now

Thank you x

[Nappo]

Gosh, who said something like that Ö____Ö? This is surely wrong! It's maybe only the fact that they could have diabetes,but they are as lovely as every other hamsters!
Good luck ;D

[delbert]

Gosh, who said something like that Ö____Ö? This is surely wrong! It's maybe only the fact that they could have diabetes,but they are as lovely as every other hamsters!
Good luck ;D

Who said it?
Obviously somebody who didn't know what they were talking about. lol
I can't remember to be honest. Thats why i love this site so much, everybody is lovely and so willing to share advice and tips etc.

x

[KatiePillow]

I have 3 hybrids (on the campbells side though) and they're all lovely, :) The main issue with hybrids is that you end up with no pure ones left and they might have health issues. (I think)
One of my hamsters is a bit nippy, but she's a girl..and I think it's just her being overly protective of her cage.
I have a little boy hybrid who licks my hand if I put it in his cage >.<

[delbert]

he licks your hand????
awwwwwwwwwwww think i just fell in love a little :) x

[KatiePillow]

He's the little white one 3rd from the left in my sig pic. He also poops in his wheel, so he's not all angelic..but he is lovely. >.<
http://www.hamstercentral.com/community/hamster-chat/13502-daily-adventures-pillow.html is a better picture of him. He also has the softest fur in the world >.<

[delbert]

I cant see the picture in the link, its just showing a red cross :(
But from the pic in your signature, he looks a right cutey, butter wudn't melt, little cheeky imp. lol

[KatiePillow]

He is so cute, he lives with my boyfriend (mean hamster stealer!) and I remember once he texted 'awwh..pillow is so adorable'
twenty seconds later 'except when he poops on my pillow!!' :rolleyes:
He is very much butter wouldn't melt.. and he's a lot smaller than my others.
But he is a hybrid, and a lovely little boy. It's really hard to get a pure breed unless you buy from a breeder, if there aren't any from you I wouldn't worry about whether the ones in the pet shop are pure or not..if you fall in love..get one :)
I'm such a gushing hammy mummy D:

[delbert]

LOL, im actually LOL. hee hee, pooped on his pillow, the little bugger. hee hee.

Went to pet hop today and the cutest little thing stood up against the glass looked at me, and I swear i heard her say "please take me home, i wuv youuu" lol. Gunna go get her sunday, i got th pet shop to reerve her for me ;)

[KatiePillow]

awesome :D I can't wait for pictures. :3
Wish I had a story like that for mine ones. Mine were sleeping >.<

[Hamtastic]

Could you help me indentifying my hams as well? I haven't been able to take any face-on pictures, because my hamsters are camera-shy, but here are the very few pictures I have in good lighting:
http://oi54.tinypic.com/mvjkf6.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/v7bnyx.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/bedbug.jpg

I was told they are Winter Whites when I bought them. I looked at my pictures and the pictures listed here for reference, and it's a bit hard to tell. My hams often flaten out when they lie down (when I take pictures).

Also, should they change their color patterns when they get older, or would they continue staying pure white with a dark spot between their ears?

[Nappo]

I would say Hybrid again...but i can't tell you if they'll change their color ;D

[laura]

Thanks for posting that link to the website about telling the difference between a winter white and hybrid. It's interesting that it's the first time I've seen a comparison between a hybrid and the pure breed, as you really can't realise it without seeing a hybrid.

I was wondering if you could tell me whether you think my hamster rolo is a hybrid or winter white, I'm convinced he's winter white and if not pure breed mainly of that breed. I used the guide but I'm still not totally sure.

There are pictures in my thread: http://www.hamstercentral.com/community/dwarf-winter-white-russian-hamster/14494-rolo.html

and here's some showing his body and side profile:

http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/5539/img5846s.jpg (http://img806.imageshack.us/i/img5846s.jpg/)


http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/345/rolofull.jpg (http://img200.imageshack.us/i/rolofull.jpg/)

http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/578/rolohand.jpg (http://img815.imageshack.us/i/rolohand.jpg/)

[laura]

oops forgot this one. Btw, you may notice my hands and nails have paint on them.. I do wash them it's just that I'm an artist and I get a bit messy lol. Didn't want to worry or disgust anyone, so thought I'd say.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7689/rolobody.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/rolobody.jpg/)

[Nappo]

My guess is WinterWhite, but I'm a little confused because of the ears XDD Normally they have to be really round...
I made a thread in english for better understanding too XD
http://www.hamstercentral.com/community/hybrid-hamsters/14219-identifying-features-hybrids.html
Awww, an artist cool <3 I love drawing too,but only as a hobby xD

[laura]

Thanks, yeah that's exactly what was confusing me!! His ears don't seem totally round, but in some pictures they do look kinda round and they are very small. It doesn't help that he's not very chubby, as I've noticed a lot of these winter white hamsters are very rounded looking lol. But he does have the winter white body shape. I don't think the ears look like campbells ears though because theirs tend to be huge and stick out as far as I know.

Ah well if he's not pure winter white, he's in a very convincing disguise lol.

I saw your thread, it's really good! That's what I was talking about when I said before about it being good to compare a hybrid to a pure breed, as I think that's where people get a bit stuck as when they look kind of like them they assume it's one rather than both.

Anyway I'm rambling on. Thanks for taking a look at him! :)