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Gillzy
01-28-2011, 08:14 AM
My stuff arrived from ECF today. I'd ordered the ferplast network attachment and (what I thought was) a crittertrail 10inch tube. Turns out they sent me the 3 pack of tubes, one of the "10inch tubes" is actually 2 medium ones and a small one combined (which I had wanted but they were sold out of! :D ). And it's turned out better because... well, I'll show you.

These are the two cages I'm connecting - the pink Fantasia and the barred yellow one (dunno what brand it is, got it in p@h)(and the tiny table it has to fit onto :( ):

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1261/dscf0850p.jpg

This is where I want to connect it from. The middle hole is right on the edge of the top of the yellow cage's bars, and the bottom hole is right on the edge of the yellow cage's base, so has to be top hole:

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5139/dscf0852r.jpg

This made me thankful they had sent me so many tubes, so that I could extend it right over the top. I have a problem here, as the CT tubes are just SLIGHTLY loose in the Fantasia hole, so I'm thinking I'll just super glue the pink ring (seen above) onto it. Also here you can see the ferplast network connector (FNC):

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/5632/dscf0853u.jpg

And this is where I will be connecting the tubes to the yellow cage, using the FNC:

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8083/dscf0855w.jpg

I need help on how to cut the bars though. I have a pair of plyers, that have a cutter-bit in the middle, so I HOPE it'll be able to cut through the bars (if not I'll have to ask around for one from someone). BUT how do I mark the bars so I know where to cut? :/ I'm so scared of mucking this up :/

EDIT: Okay, so I tried to use the cutty-bit in our needle-nose pliers and they won't cut the bars. My OH says his father has bolt-cutters, which would probably work. Any suggestions what else would cut these bars?

Iluvhamsters
01-28-2011, 08:42 AM
I don't think anything other than bolt-cutters or wire-cutters (not the tiny ones on your needle-nose pliers though) would cut that wire.

Camdenita
01-28-2011, 08:43 AM
You are holding the connector to the place you want to put it and you see where the circle (that's on the inside part of the connector) touches the wires.
Take a permanent marker and mark the first bar you want to cut at the spots that the circle and the wire meet.
Cut it and then do the same for the rest of them.
Be careful not to cut the wires more than you should.
Better to cut less and then, if the connector is bigger, cut the wire a little bit more.
It's very easy!
When you cut the wire just move the tool right and left many times until the wire is so "squeezed" that breaks.
Hope I helped... My english are not that good so as to give good instructions for something like that!!

Gillzy
01-28-2011, 09:08 AM
I'll try and get some bolt-cutters then. My brother says he might have something that'll work, so I'll get that tomorrow. :)

Your instructions were very good, Camdenita. I'm not sure if I'll be able to see permenant marker on the bars (that was what my main problem was) what I did was take a pair of scissors and try to make marks on it... I'm sure I'll figure something out tomorrow... :) Even if just I end up snipping off lots of bits a little at a time :)

Thank you for your help :)

princess-rhi89
01-28-2011, 09:21 AM
How about a dot of typex? it wont matter as you will be removing these parts of the bars anyway :)

Gillzy
01-28-2011, 09:43 AM
That's a great idea princess-rhi! :D I'll ask my bro for his tipex too (I've only got a tipex mouse... which isn't so helpful). Thanks!

Womblehands
01-28-2011, 10:57 AM
tipex mouse thats taking me back to my school days...mine was rubbish tho, it would peel right off the paper revealing the mistake...

Gillzy
01-28-2011, 10:59 AM
Haha yeh. It should have a warning on it: *Will not withstand rubbing." :P

Camdenita
01-28-2011, 11:45 AM
I'll try and get some bolt-cutters then. My brother says he might have something that'll work, so I'll get that tomorrow. :)

Your instructions were very good, Camdenita. I'm not sure if I'll be able to see permenant marker on the bars (that was what my main problem was) what I did was take a pair of scissors and try to make marks on it... I'm sure I'll figure something out tomorrow... :) Even if just I end up snipping off lots of bits a little at a time :)

Thank you for your help :)

Oh ok, I was actually thinking of a white permanent marker I had used for this. The kind of colorful permanent markers that people who do graffiti use.
But typex is indeed a good idea! :rolleyes:

Gillzy
01-28-2011, 06:50 PM
Well turns out the thing my brother had was a junior saw. And it's rubbish... it barely scraped off the coating on the bars haha. So just gotta wait until I can get a pair of bolt cutters, might not be til Monday night :( haha I'm so impatient.

I did however, just scrape away where I want to cut (forgot to get tipex *doh*), so only thing left is to cut. :)

Now, I have some more questions about tubing.

I have found these CRITTERTRAIL FUNNEL PACK OF COLOURFUL CONNECTING TUBES (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CRITTERTRAIL-FUNNEL-PACK-OF-COLOURFUL-CONNECTING-TUBES_W0QQitemZ290488376624QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=2 04700877216&rvr_id=204700877216&cguid=3c5f918e12c0a0aad4d6ebc6fff00ef7#ht_500wt_92 2) and 8 INCH (EXTENDABLE) HAMSTER / GERBIL/ MOUSE PLAY TUBE (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/8-INCH-EXTENDABLE-HAMSTER-GERBIL-MOUSE-PLAY-TUBE-/250602129627?pt=UK_Pet_Supplies_Small_Animals&hash=item3a590d08db#ht_500wt_922) on ebay.... and was thinking about getting a couple more of the FNAs and then I just make a tube city. I'm tempted to get 2 of each... :oops:

What's the best way to go about tube cities... is it possible to plan them, or best to just get lots of tubes and see what I can make?

Or should I invest this money in other toys instead? (Like this: Super Pet Build n' Bite Medium Hamster Rabbit Degu Toy (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Super-Pet-Build-n-Bite-Medium-Hamster-Rabbit-Degu-Toy-/260716777480?pt=UK_Pet_Supplies_Small_Animals&hash=item3cb3ee5008#ht_2867wt_908)... temped to get that too... she'd love it!)

Hannah
01-29-2011, 02:40 AM
Hiya, i just thought i would warn you about that toy as i have heard that sometimes hammys may get their little feet stuck in the holes. Also what is a tube city? It sounds really exciting. XxX

Katarina
01-29-2011, 02:47 AM
Is there not a side opening on your expansion? if there is, you could just buy and extra shelf with a hole for a pipe already in and attach it to the cage over the opening from the inside of the cage and hay presto - that's what I am planning to do in the future. that way you will have an undamaged cage to sell if you ever want to :) I hope it helps :)

Gillzy
01-29-2011, 04:35 AM
Oh, Hannah, I hadn't thought about the holes in that - perhaps I should just wait until I have a glue gun and jenga bricks and make the crazy contraption that Wofunny did. :) Thanks!

A tube city isn't a specific thing I just meant it as lots of tubes going everywhere! Just extra places for the hamster to explore. Perhaps expandable to more little rooms. :)

Unfortunately, Katarina, it is a roof opening. And I was tempted to put the tubes in there, but then realised if I wanted to get in there to get to Sen I'd have to disconnect the tubes (that, and from the roof it would be a big drop from the inside as the FNA doesn't allow tubes connected from the inside (which I'm not sure why not really!). I think the cage is lacking without an option for tubes (and the hole has a cover if it's no longer wanted), I've wanted to put tubes in it since I got it, just never got round to it.

I'm going to try and find a shelf to fit inside it too, the one it came with was wire with a wire ladder and I didn't like it for my dwarves (even after I covered it in cardboard), so took it out and lost it in a house move. It's a 13.5" (34.5cm)x19" cage (48.25cm), which are difficult dimensions to find plastic shelves... my friend is a wood craftsman, so I'm tempted to ask him to make me something :)

Katarina
01-29-2011, 05:36 AM
there are sets of shelfs - wooden shelfs on ebay - I am thinking of replacing my plastic ones whith these! I love the corner ones a lot, too!

PACK 3 PINE SHELVES-HAMSTER RAT CHIPMUNK DEGU CAGE on eBay (end time 01-Feb-11 19:34:32 GMT) (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PACK-3-PINE-SHELVES-HAMSTER-RAT-CHIPMUNK-DEGU-CAGE-/300300259388?pt=UK_Pet_Supplies_Small_Animals&hash=item45eb4a503c)

I might be getting these for my bin cage + some other ones with holes drilled in :)
Good luck!

Gillzy
01-29-2011, 06:29 AM
I have a bit of a thing about wooden things in cages. Because I read once that if a hamster catches mites they can inbed themselves in the wood and you can't clean it off... so I prefer getting plastic if I can, and then giving wood chew toys that I wouldn't mind throwing away. Also, Sen still goes through occasional naughty phases and pees in corners not easily cleanable. But thanks for the suggestion, Katarina. :)

EDIT: I realise I said that my friend would make a wood shelf, but that was as a last resort, because then I'd want to plasticote it etc.

Gillzy
01-29-2011, 08:40 AM
I'm opting for the Rydon - Plastic Shelves (http://www.k9capers.com/shop/proddetail.asp?prod=12359), which will take up the length and about half the width of the cage. Perfect.

Ladder: I thought this Karlie Climbing Wall/Ladder (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Karlie-Wonderland-Hamster-Climbing-Wall-and-Ladder-/190460769822?pt=UK_Pet_Supplies_Small_Animals&hash=item2c5858b61e#ht_2287wt_1139) was cute, 3.49 but free delivery. I'm not a fan of the metal ladders with rungs. And the only plastic ladder I can find is the Ferplast Ramp (http://www.equinecaninefeline.com/catalog/ferplast-plastic-ramp-ladder-special-edition-p-3679.html) which is too long. Does the Karlie one look good, and safe? Anyone else used it/seen it?

Hope
01-29-2011, 12:16 PM
Looking good! This will give Sen lots more space to explore. :-) The ladder should be fine other options could be this: Trixie Wooden Climbing Wall - Hamster Mouse Gerbil Pets on eBay (end time 24-Feb-11 16:43:58 GMT) (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Trixie-Wooden-Climbing-Wall---Hamster-Mouse-Gerbil-Pets_W0QQitemZ160537408562QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=20 5016528162&rvr_id=205016528162&cguid=162cc67612d0a0aa14e79ef7fe7354b3)
kinda the same but more 'natural' looking if you wanna go for that kinda look, or the bending bridges - I use them for all sorts and do come in handy SuperPet Fiddle Sticks Hamster Tunnel Toy - Small on eBay (end time 11-Feb-11 17:56:52 GMT) (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SuperPet-Fiddle-Sticks-Hamster-Tunnel-Toy---Small_W0QQitemZ150547779310QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=2 05015737096&rvr_id=205015737096&cguid=162cc67612d0a0aa14e79ef7fe7354b3) , they bend so you could straighten it out to make a ladder.

Gillzy
01-29-2011, 03:11 PM
Oh my. I can't stop buying :| I think I may be addicted to buying hamster things. :|

I have now decided since she'll be able to have a bigger wheel (as the Fantazia only manages to JUST fit the 6.5" silent spinner.

[I am thinking I will buy a 12" one (or 11" WW). Because I just managed to measure Sen roughly and she's 6" long, and only 3 months old... so I'm best to go for the 12" rather than 8"?

Found this 11" WW Senior (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Enclosed-SAFE-Senior-Wheel-Hamster-Rat-Degu-11-28cm-/300441153922?pt=UK_Pet_Supplies_Small_Animals&hash=item45f3b03182#ht_882wt_1139) for super cheap on ebay. It's bought. Haha. Hope it's not too noisy as I've only ever had silent spinners, but you guys speak kindly of it, so I'm trusting you. :)]

EDIT: Ignore all that. Just realised my extension cage is only 10inches high. So 8inch wheel it is. :( Unless anyone has any better ideas?