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Pebbles82 · 08-30-2020, 10:30 AM

When you say the max space you have is 85cm - do you mean the table it is to stand on (or similar). Most 100cm cage bases have a much smaller footprint than 100cm so will sit on a smaller surface.

I like the Savic Plaza cage - about the same price as the Alexander but has a big front opening door. Which is good for interaction and taming. Although it does need some extras buying as the shelf is too big for the cage and it doesn’t come with the houses and good shelves like the Alexander.

Pets at home sell it. The actual footprint of the base is about 89cm but it’s also fine to have some overhang either side.

Basically you would be better with a 100 Cm cage or the Alaska for a Syrian- but the Langham tall is not a bad size floorspace wise- it would need a full level to be safe - to avoid fall risks. The Alexander or Savic Plaza would be much better options however.

There is also the Hamster heaven or hamster sky. Which are 80 x 50. If set up carefully it can be fine. But it works best with all
The plastic stuff, tubes and penthouse removed and starting from scratch with a decent sized house and wheel and a different kind of shelf. A lot of people start a Syrian off in that cage and then see if they need upgrading later. I have a Syrian in that size cage at the moment and it was working fine except he has grown very large! And so I will be upgrading him to the plaza so I can fit bigger items in.

I would go for the Alexander or Plaza but if you absolutely can’t fit a 100 Cm cage in then I think there are better options than the langham tall. A hamster heaven as mentioned above and see how the hamster goes (if it’s a small Syrian it may be fine).

Another option might be this cage - it is slightly under 100cm at 98cm and the footprint would be smaller. It is already two tier so no need to maje a full level. Ships from Germany (like Zooplus cages!).

https://www.amazon.de/PETGARD-Mäuse-...rlos+ka&sr=8-6

Otherwise it would be the Alaska or Hamster heaven. There is no actual legal minimum size for a Syrian cage - the Rspca used to recommend 75 x 45 or 80 x 50 as a minimum (at various times). Most people reckon that is an absolute minimum for floorspace - they like most things at substrate level as they’re ground dwellers and it helps them have normal habits. But they also vary IH personality. Some are more lazy and others more maverick and needing a lot of space. Some are more shy and ok with 80 x 50.

08-30-2020, 10:30 AM
Pebbles82 Hamster Antics Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 23,533	Re: The Langham Tall (two floors) When you say the max space you have is 85cm - do you mean the table it is to stand on (or similar). Most 100cm cage bases have a much smaller footprint than 100cm so will sit on a smaller surface. I like the Savic Plaza cage - about the same price as the Alexander but has a big front opening door. Which is good for interaction and taming. Although it does need some extras buying as the shelf is too big for the cage and it doesn’t come with the houses and good shelves like the Alexander. Pets at home sell it. The actual footprint of the base is about 89cm but it’s also fine to have some overhang either side. Basically you would be better with a 100 Cm cage or the Alaska for a Syrian- but the Langham tall is not a bad size floorspace wise- it would need a full level to be safe - to avoid fall risks. The Alexander or Savic Plaza would be much better options however. There is also the Hamster heaven or hamster sky. Which are 80 x 50. If set up carefully it can be fine. But it works best with all The plastic stuff, tubes and penthouse removed and starting from scratch with a decent sized house and wheel and a different kind of shelf. A lot of people start a Syrian off in that cage and then see if they need upgrading later. I have a Syrian in that size cage at the moment and it was working fine except he has grown very large! And so I will be upgrading him to the plaza so I can fit bigger items in. I would go for the Alexander or Plaza but if you absolutely can’t fit a 100 Cm cage in then I think there are better options than the langham tall. A hamster heaven as mentioned above and see how the hamster goes (if it’s a small Syrian it may be fine). Another option might be this cage - it is slightly under 100cm at 98cm and the footprint would be smaller. It is already two tier so no need to maje a full level. Ships from Germany (like Zooplus cages!). https://www.amazon.de/PETGARD-Mäuse-...rlos+ka&sr=8-6 Otherwise it would be the Alaska or Hamster heaven. There is no actual legal minimum size for a Syrian cage - the Rspca used to recommend 75 x 45 or 80 x 50 as a minimum (at various times). Most people reckon that is an absolute minimum for floorspace - they like most things at substrate level as they’re ground dwellers and it helps them have normal habits. But they also vary IH personality. Some are more lazy and others more maverick and needing a lot of space. Some are more shy and ok with 80 x 50. Last edited by Pebbles82; 08-30-2020 at 10:35 AM.