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Pebbles82 · 11-10-2019, 05:07 AM

I agree the size thing needs to be balanced and an upgrade from a mini duna to 100cm cage would be a big change. The standard duna multy is the same size as the zoozone 1

Some might depend on the size of the items you use and how much floor space is left! So a couple of small square tissue box houses and a couple of 6.5" silent spinners wouldn't take up a lot of room and a zoozone 1 be plenty of space.

But two labyrinth houses and 2 x 9" wheels and a flying saucer would take up a lot more floor space. So some depends on what kind of enrichment you had in mind but I have also heard that too much space can also create territorial behaviour. One problem in recent years has been 6.5" silent spinners aren't what they used to be and often don't spin properly since a manufacturing change. So people have been getting 8" and 9" wheels for dwarf hamsters which take up more room. There is a silent spinner lookalike wheel 6.5" that petsat home sell I think - that is smaller.

So the set up might need to allow for enough space so they can actually have space from each other but not so much that there is a lot of open space.

The Grosvenor is probably about the same size as the Zoozone 1 as well (a bit smaller than the hamster heaven). You would need to take the shelf out. I would be tempted to go with the standard duna multy and two 9" trixie wood wheels (they need plastikoting so they don't get stinky and check for any splinters). They're big enough for both to run in at the same time but not too big for a single dwarf to run in and they spin easily. Plus a couple of small cardboard houses with two or three entrances cut in them, scatter feeding rather than food bowls and two water bottles.

As the cage is bigger it will take more substrate so put new substrate on the bottom and move all the old substrate across and spread it out on top - don't clean anything just move everything across - then don't clean or change anything for at least two weeks while they settle in. If you have any existing houses and toys move those across as well and add the two small cardboard box houses with the holes cut out. Although if the existing house only has one entrance I wouldn't move it across. Any tunnels need to be big enough that they can both fit inside or one can block the other one in. So I would only use larger tunnels that have an additional hole on top - something like the one below.

https://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/small..._wheels/609617

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Plastikote-...3387891&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rosewood-Bo...3388015&sr=8-2

11-10-2019, 05:07 AM
Pebbles82 Hamster Antics Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 23,533	Re: best cage for a pair of hybrids I agree the size thing needs to be balanced and an upgrade from a mini duna to 100cm cage would be a big change. The standard duna multy is the same size as the zoozone 1 Some might depend on the size of the items you use and how much floor space is left! So a couple of small square tissue box houses and a couple of 6.5" silent spinners wouldn't take up a lot of room and a zoozone 1 be plenty of space. But two labyrinth houses and 2 x 9" wheels and a flying saucer would take up a lot more floor space. So some depends on what kind of enrichment you had in mind but I have also heard that too much space can also create territorial behaviour. One problem in recent years has been 6.5" silent spinners aren't what they used to be and often don't spin properly since a manufacturing change. So people have been getting 8" and 9" wheels for dwarf hamsters which take up more room. There is a silent spinner lookalike wheel 6.5" that petsat home sell I think - that is smaller. So the set up might need to allow for enough space so they can actually have space from each other but not so much that there is a lot of open space. The Grosvenor is probably about the same size as the Zoozone 1 as well (a bit smaller than the hamster heaven). You would need to take the shelf out. I would be tempted to go with the standard duna multy and two 9" trixie wood wheels (they need plastikoting so they don't get stinky and check for any splinters). They're big enough for both to run in at the same time but not too big for a single dwarf to run in and they spin easily. Plus a couple of small cardboard houses with two or three entrances cut in them, scatter feeding rather than food bowls and two water bottles. As the cage is bigger it will take more substrate so put new substrate on the bottom and move all the old substrate across and spread it out on top - don't clean anything just move everything across - then don't clean or change anything for at least two weeks while they settle in. If you have any existing houses and toys move those across as well and add the two small cardboard box houses with the holes cut out. Although if the existing house only has one entrance I wouldn't move it across. Any tunnels need to be big enough that they can both fit inside or one can block the other one in. So I would only use larger tunnels that have an additional hole on top - something like the one below. https://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/small..._wheels/609617 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Plastikote-...3387891&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rosewood-Bo...3388015&sr=8-2 Last edited by Pebbles82; 11-10-2019 at 05:14 AM.