I think that's a great way to look at it Ria. Plus, if it's a big channel and it's monetized these people may have to put a superhuman effort into getting their hams to a certain stage. And they can edit out the pings and the panics
I'm happy enough to keep trying with my hams but if it doesn't happen and they stay more interested in exploration that's fine. So long as they're happy. Maybe there is a critical limit of apple bits and sunflower seeds that I have yet to reach and one day Jin will snap and love me, I'll just have to keep at it lol
she's just after running over my foot and completely blanking me when I tried to get her attention so we're not there yet!